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Jaye ([personal profile] jayes_musings) wrote2008-12-05 07:24 am
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Oh yes he is!

There is a case being appealed to the Supreme Court which claims that Barack Obama is not eligible to be President as because his father was Kenyan, Obama is therefore not a natural born US citizen, even though he was born on US soil.

Fortunately, it seems likely (from the report that I heard) that the Supreme Court will decide not to hear this case, but it still makes me angry. (And it is only one of several similar cases, all of which have been tossed out of lower courts, thankfully.

Saying that is like saying that my children, both born in the US, are not natural born US citizens because I was born in Britain. Well, they are most undoubtedly and assuredly are and always have been. I find this case to be a great insult to them as much as Obama.

The nerve of some people. Oh, how I would like to meet this guy and set him right.

[identity profile] lorelei633.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a desperate and vicious move by conservative right-wing nutjobs in a last-ditch effort to keep him from taking office. I'm actually shocked it's going forward. From what I've read online this morning, Supreme Court Justice David Souter had declined the motion to bring it before the Supreme Court, but Justice Clarence Thomas filed the paperwork to reinstate it. He's a Republican, so there's no real mystery as to why he's doing this. I always chalked this up to the tinfoil hat brigade and figured nothing would come of it but now I'm actually beginning to get worried. I don't even want to think about what could happen if they actually succeed in barring him from the Presidency. I think this country will absolutely erupt.

Just goes to show that the right wing conservatives will stop at nothing to hold on to power.
Edited 2008-12-05 15:35 (UTC)

[identity profile] luscious-words.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
*sigh* It really does not surprise me that this is happening. It's a last ditch effort to prevent it from happening, which is utter asshattery. Nutters on parade, I tell you, nutters on parade. They just need to accept reality...oh wait, it's not their reality so they find it difficult. *rolls eyes*

Edit: Oops, wrong icon. Meant the other Kronos one. ;)
Edited 2008-12-05 15:42 (UTC)
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[personal profile] fannyfae 2008-12-05 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, his mother IS a naturalized US Citizen, therefore they really are grasping at straws. They just don't want to accept the fact that the GOP hold on power is irrevocably broken.

[identity profile] gehayi.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
According to this (http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS234607+29-Jan-2008+BW20080129), Obama's mother, Ann Durham, was born in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas in November 1942, the child of two natives of Kansas. I'm not sure why she'd need to be naturalized, since she was born here.
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[personal profile] fannyfae 2008-12-05 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Mea culpa. That is what I meant. *embarassed look*

But then growing up Native, I was always spoon fed the idea from my relatives on the Rez that anyone who is Non-Indigenous is a foreigner anyway. ;)

Show me your Onondaga passports, damn it! ;))

(Yes, I am teasing, btw)
Edited 2008-12-05 19:59 (UTC)

[identity profile] gehayi.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
anyone who is Non-Indigenous is a foreigner anyway. ;)

*laughs*

Sounds a lot like New England. There's an old joke around here about a young couple with a baby who moved to a small town in New Hampshire. The baby grew up in the town, married, had a dozen or so kids, worked, and generally became the best-loved person in town. So when he finally died--at well over a hundred--the people of the town wanted to commemorate how well-loved he was. And so they put up a tombstone that said:

DEARLY BELOVED
THOUGH A STRANGER AMONG US
Edited 2008-12-05 20:10 (UTC)

[identity profile] lorelei633.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Hahaha that's like the joke we have down here in Virginia. A man is born in North Carolina and his family moves to Richmond when he is two days old. He grows up here, goes to school, then university, gets married, starts a thriving business, has children, becomes a grandfather, retires, lives to a ripe old age and then passes away.

The headline in the newspaper reads:

NORTH CAROLINA MAN DIES AT 99

[identity profile] nota-faerietale.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
...

So when do we decide that someone is or isn't a "real" citizen. Third generation? Fifth?

[identity profile] gehayi.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
This rather mad case would have made the following men ineligible for the Presidency, as their parents were not born in the United States of America:

George Washington (both parents were born in the Colony of Virginia, not the USA)

John Adams (both parents were born in the Massachusetts Bay Colony)

Thomas Jefferson (disqualified twice over--his father Peter was born in the Colony of Virginia; his mother Jane Randolph was born the Tower Hamlets of Shadwell, a neighborhood in London, England)

James Madison (both parents were born in the Colony of Virginia)

James Monroe (both parents were born in the Colony of Virginia)

John Quincy Adams (both parents born in the Colony of Massachusetts)

Andrew Jackson (both parents were Scots-Irish immigrants from Carrickfergus, Ireland)

Martin Van Buren (both parents were born in the Colony of New York)

William Henry Harrison (both parents born in the Colony of Virginia)

John Tyler (both parents born in the Colony of Virginia)

James Polk (both parents born in the Colony of North Carolina)

Zachary Taylor (both parents born in the Colony of Virginia)

Franklin Pierce (his father was born in the Colony of New Hampshire)

James Buchanan (both parents had emigrated from Ireland)

Abraham Lincoln (his father and mother were born in the Colony of Virginia)

Andrew Johnson (er...actually, we're not sure about him; his father may have been born in the Colony of North Carolina during the American Revolution--or he may have been been born in Newcastle, England)

Rutherford B. Hayes (his father was born in the Colony of Vermont)

Chester A. Arthur (his father was a preacher born in Ireland)

Woodrow Wilson (his mother was born in Carlisle, Scotland)

***

That invalidates a lot of presidents. Somehow, I don't think this case is going to fly.

[identity profile] nota-faerietale.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Well that cinches it. Time to retcon our country. >.>

[identity profile] itsmybrain2.livejournal.com 2008-12-10 02:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Your kids are as American as apple pie! I know, I spent time with them. *g*

I feel your pain dear. As you know I was born inGermany, my dad in the service. I often pondered the fact that it was not at all my folks fault there was no military hospitatl on the base they were stationed at. I had to come out in a German one. Thus I was not considered us. *shakes head*

As to the Obama mess, yes well I suppose (being very generous here) it's good that it happened to avoid future troubles. :)